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Jul 18, 2018

County Cider based in Prince Edward County in the Canadian Province of Ontario began selling cider in 1996. It was launched by Grant Howes a formidable man considered the Grandfather of Cider in Ontario. In 2000 Jenifer Dean who had studied winemaking joined up with County Cider. Her husband Grant passed away unexpectedly in January 2017 when he had a heart attack in his sleep.

Jenifer Dean tells the story of County Cider's past, present and future in this walkabout chat with Ria at the onsite location overlooking Prince Edward Bay in Ontario.

Historical Facts on Canadian cider

Ontario cider had a number of setbacks related to Prohibition, but also due to the Ontario government's  “Pullout Program” paying farmers to pull out trees. Unfortunately they had no pay out program farmers to plant trees.

County Cider grows a number of cider varieties

  • Kingston Black
  • Dabinet
  • Michelin
  • Yarlington Mill
  • Bulmers Norman
  • Benet Rouge
  • Brown Snout
  • Frequin rogue

Ciders at County Cider

  • Modern ciders made in with Fruit essence, such as peach and pear cider.
  • Traditional ciders such as Tortured Path made with a blend of bitter sharp and bitter sweet.
  • Ice cider made by allowing the apples (Ida Red) to freeze on the tree.

Visiting County Cider

  • Tasting Room and Retail Store - Open May 12th through October 31st
    • 10:30 a.m. - 6 p.m.
  • Patio Restaurant open 7 days a week 11 a.m. to 6 p.m.

Contact County Cider

Website: https://www.countycider.com/

Address: 

  • 657 Bongards Crossroad, Waupoos, ON, K0K 2T0

Find County Cider in Ontario

http://www.lcbo.com/lcbo/search?searchTerm=county+cider

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

 

Jul 9, 2018

This is a mini version of the main podcast this week - as I am super duper busy - so I call this "Cider Chat Live" which is a mini me version of the main podcast - Subscribe to Cider Chat Live too via https://anchor.fm/ciderchat

In this episode, Nathan details how he made his winning Ice Cider that launched him into the US based National Homebrew Competition that was held in Portland Oregon at the end of this past June.

******next year’s competition takes place in Rhode Island!

Nathan Williams is a member of the Boston Wort Processors , a homebrew club. He got the apple juice for his award winning cider from Cider Hill based in Amesbury, Massachusetts. Go the "Mentions in this Chat" below and find the link to Chadd Cook the cidermaker at Cider Hill episode on ice cidermaking.

Cidermaking Tips used by Nathan

  • White Labs - 720 Sweet Mead Yeast - because it wouldn’t ferment dry
  • He monitors his ciders with a temperature controlled chamber
  • Tilt Hydrometer that floats in the fermenter.
    • You can look at your carboy and can see the current specific gravity

Nathan was looking for an ice cider that had clean acidity

Mentions in this chat

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

Jul 4, 2018

Viejo is a barrel aged cider made by Joe Getz of Kurant Cider. This cider is a single varietal cider made with Winchester apples.

Described on Kurants website as:

"a blend of wild fermented ciders created by using some of the best apples we could source in Pennsylvania.  The ciders used to blend Viejo were aged for 6-18 months in oak before being used in the finished product.  Viejo is a still cider meaning non-carbonated.  It's meant to be served with a long pour from great heights to aerate and add effervescence."Joe Getz in the barrel room Joe in the barrel room[/caption]

In this chat taste and talk Viejo and follow up with Joe on the opening of the Fishtown taproom, which much like Viejo took over a year to build out.

A Porron is used by Kurant Cider for in high pours of cider/sidra

A 19th century carriage house was renovated into the new Taproom, which has an upstairs (The Attic) and a main floor serving area. The giant garage door rolls up and the entire taproom opens to the outdoors.


Listen to Joe Getz on previous episodes of Cider Chat #14 & #82

Joe Holding cases of Kurant Joe carrying cases of Kurant to Ria's car. Hot Dang! Thanks Joe!!![/caption]

Fishtown Taproom Hours

  • Monday - Closed
  • Tuesday - Closed
  • Wednesday 4 -10pm
  • Thursday 4 -10pm
  • Friday 4 -12am
  • Saturday 12pm - 12am
  • Sunday 12pm - 9pm

Fishtown Address

Fishtown Telephone: (267) 928-3620

Website: http://www.kurantcider.com/fishtown/

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

 

 

Jun 27, 2018

What are Medlars?

  • Medlars are pommes.
  • It can be either a tree or a large bush.
  • The small brown medlars are picked in the fall. Because Medlars are eaten in the winter months they were very popular at a time when fruit was not easily accessible during winter months.
  • To Blet a Medlar, means that this pomme is allowed to over ripen to the point of almost being rotten.

How to eat a Medlar

  • Wait until the medlar provides a smell of apple and figs - this tell you that the medlar is really ripe
  • peal off the outer layer of skin
  • squeeze off the green tail end.
  • Plop the whole medlar in your mouth or eat with a spoon

The Eastern States Exposition annual Cider and Perry competition is now in its 3rd year. The short local name for the exposition is "Big E", which is fair held over two weeks, on the second weekend after Labor Day. In preparation for this year's  Big E a wine, cider and perry competition took place. The wine segment has been running for over 13 years! Cider and Perry as noted is now 3 years in the running.

This year’s judging for the upcoming Big E,  took place on June 9, 2018. There were over 50 ciders entered from all five New England states and New York.

The judging was held on the ground of the Big E and wine judges were also present, naturally sitting away from the cider judges

The Big E cider judges for 2018

  • Charlie O’chowski - Founding members of CiderDays
  • Mark Gryska - CiderDays Competition Director
  • April Woodard - Wild Child Cellars
  • Curt Sherrer - Millstone Cellars and Wild Child Cellars
  • Emily Kovach editor of Cider Culture, an online cider publication.
  • Ria Windcaller, Cider Chat Producer and Host

Big benefits for medal winners

  • All medal winners are displayed in the Wine and Cheese Barn during The Big E exposing New England Ciders to a potential audience of over 1.8 million Fairgoers.
  • Wine and Cheese Barn participants are able to sell and promote their ciders with one-on-one direct sales.
  • All winners entering 2 or more ciders will be able to sign up for a day to sell ciders in the Barn for the day. Eastern States Exposition takes care of all the busy work, maintaining your inventory, setting up your display in the shop, and ringing up all your sales for the day! Cider Makers will be expected to pour, sample and build relationships with patrons. 

The Best is Show judging was recorded during this competition and is featured on this episode of Cider Chat.

The winner was Redfield cider produced by West County Cider, Massachusetts. Maker, Field Maloney is featured on episode 1 of Cider Chat

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

 

Jun 20, 2018

Cider's Chemical Fingerprints

John Edwards presented "Chemical Fingerprints of Cider" at the United States Association of Cider Makers annual conference in Baltimore Maryland (CiderCon) in February 2018.

The full title of this workshop was The Complex Fingerprint Analysis of Cider and other Alcoholic Beverages by Quantitative NMR Spectroscopy.

What is NMR?

  • Nuclear Magnetic Resonance (NMR) spectroscopy is an analytical chemistry technique used in quality control and research for determining the content and purity of a sample as well as its molecular structure.

What can NMR Spectroscopy do for Cider?

  • Interested in nutritional labels?
  • Wonder what the cost is to do an analysis and get your own label?
  • Have a stuck fermentation?
  • Trying to set up a baseline for tracking terroir?
  • Need help analyzing cider or other beverages?

NMR can do all of the above, albeit not all of this is now being done with cider. However in the wine industry NMR is used to track vintages and terroir, so it is perhaps just a matter of time.

Contact info for John Edwards

Website: Process NMR Associates

email:  john@process-nmr.com

Telephone: 203- 744-5905

Address:

  • 87A Sand Pit Rd
  • Danbury, CT 06810

Mentions in this chat

Two articles online mentioning Cider Chat podcast

1. Cider Culture - Resources to Up Your DIY Cider Education

2. CiderCraft Magazine: Let's Get Digital

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

 

 

Jun 13, 2018

 

Bâtonnage is a winemaking technique that is also used in Cidermaking. It involves raking the lees or what is seen as the heavy particulars of yeast cells that fall out of solution and down to the bottom of the barrel during primary fermentation. Bâtonnage is all about stirring the lees back into solution. Makers like Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider and Lee Baker of Keint-He Winery and Vineyards discuss and demo this technique in this episode #132

Go to Cider Chat YouTube Channel and view clip Ryan demonstrating the stirring in of the lees - Bâtonnage.

Key topics discussed in this chat

  • What is Malolactic Fermentation:
  • The sounds of cider and what it is telling you during fermentation
  • Barrel Cellar design
  • Comparison between two barrels to manage the barrel
    • One did not go through Malolactic fermentation (MLF) manage the ferment by adding sulfur to stop the MLF from happening.
    • The other did go through malolactic fermentation.
  • Managing the Lees | Lees contact
  • What does lee contact on the cider provide?
  • Bâtonnage
  • What to do when Film Yeast appears in your barrel or carboy

Contact info for this week’s featured Guests

Ryan Monkman - FieldBird Cider

Lee Baker - Keint-He Winery & Vineyards

email: lee@keint-he.ca.

Mentions in this chat

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

Jun 6, 2018

Cider Barrel Maintenance

The craft of making an oak barrel is called “cooperage” and the person who applies this craft is called a “cooper”. The skills of this trade have been passed down through the centuries. The tree and the wood chosen to become a barrel has to meet specific criteria, such as having a tight grain and flavor profiles that lend the tannin qualities often sought in a cider barrel.

From the classic wide belly barrels to oval shaped vessels, the shape of wooden barrels have changed very little over time. Quality control over the wood used and the intricacies of heat, stave bending, and maintenance of cider barrels continues to evolve.

This episode 131 was recorded in Saint Catharine, Ontario during a dinner chat with Ryan Monkman of FieldBird Cider, Thierry Lemaire of Nuance Winery Supplies and Louis of Radoux, a cooperage based in Santa Rosa California and France.

All three men have extensive knowledge on barrel use with wine. As the cider market continues to grow and both the consumer’s and cidermakers interest in ciders fermented or stored in oak increases, barrel maintenance is undoubtedly a hot topic and a key market for these specialist in the art of oak barrel cooperage and fermentation.

As we enjoy a bottle of Ryan’s FieldBird cider over dinner the four of us discuss oak barrel selection and maintenance, which in short narrows down to the broader topic of Barrel Skills. Whereas the wine industry has been working with oak barrels for centuries, cidermakers particularly in the US and Canada, are only now gaining speed with cider post Prohibition.

Key topics in this chat:

  • Finding the right oak barrel for your cider
  • Barrel Maintenance:
  • Cleaning a barrel
  • Storing a barrel
    • - wet or dry storage
    • - burning a sulfur disk
  • Leaky barrels - mechanical (cooperage) or maker mismanagement?
  • Using Wax on a barrel to stop evaporation
  • Buying a new barrel

Contact Info for the guest in this episode

Thierry Lemaire

  • Website: Nuance Winery Supplies
  • eMail: mailto:sales@nuancetrade.com
  • Address: 15 Lloyd Street
  • St Catharines, ON L2S 2N7 - Canada
  • Telephone: +1 905-225-0114

Louis Zandvliet

  • Website: Radoux
  • Address:
    • 480 Aviation Blvd.
    • Santa Rosa, CA 95403
  • Telephone:  (707) 284-2888

Ryan Monkman

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  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

May 30, 2018

Cider Voices from Grand Rapids Cider Week and the Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition

On the evening of May 14th Joby Willson, Mark Gryska, Charlie Olchowski and William Grote and myself headed out in a big old van to Grand Rapids, thanks to Mike Beck who invited us and hosted us throughout the week. Beck who he is lovingly called by all manages GLINTCAP and hires a team of people to run the program. Look to the GLINTCAP link to see the whole team.

Once we arrived in Grand Rapids the guys stayed on one side of the river at their flat and I got to hang out with Michelle McGrath, Executive Director of the United States Association of Cider Makers, Michelle Pagona aka The Brew Babe and Darlene Hayes, author of Cider Cocktails; Another Bite of the Apple.

That evening we headed to Uncle Johns Hard Cider for dinner. Nicole Ward of Forgotten Ciders (listen to Nicole and Rafe Wards chat #74), Brian and Ambrosia from Chicago's cider bar The Northman, Helen Thomas "Weston" of Weston Cider, UK and Bob Chaplin both came over from the UK to judge. Helen is the Chairwoman for the National Cider Maker Association in the UK and Weston Ciders. Bob runs the Royal Bath and West Cider Competition. It was an amazing evening riding about the orchards and tasting ciders in their inviting tasting room. Mike and Dee are quite the hosts and I highly recommend you visit their cidery in Saint John's, Michigan.

Wednesday May 16th began with a Cider Tour of West Michigan Makers

That evening it was Judges Training led by Charles McGonegal Listen to two chat with Charles: 83 -on his Wisconsin cidery AEppelTreow Winery and #84 on the Element of Cider | Sensory Analysis

Thursday and Friday was dedicated to Judging of the Ciders

Saturday was the Gillett Bridge Cider Fest in Grand Rapids

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today!

 

May 23, 2018

Carlo Hein has always loved cider. That cider love and perhaps his work in renovation and sustainable energy spurred him and his friends to start a cidery. Upon noticing the fallen fruit and neglected apples trees in his area of Luxembourg. He realized, “We need to save these orchards”

And so he did. Ramborn Cider Co began selling cider in 2015 and is Luxembourg's only cidery.

To make cider he first called Peter Mitchell, who is renown worldwide for his classes on cidermaking. Carlo asked Peter if he would help Ramborn. Peter replied that first you must take my course and then we will discuss making cider for Ramborn.

Today Peter Mitchel still consults to Ramborn Cider, which undeniably lends a good amount of UK profile to each of the ciders.

What is the traditional word for cider in Luxembourg?

  • Viez

Where did the name of the cidery come from?

Rambo is an apple known in France and Sweden and in Luxembourg. Like so many wonderful cider blends, Ramborn Cider Company is part Rambo apple and the town “Born”. Upon further research Carlo found that David Morrel the author of the book “First Blood” which inspired the movie Rambo was looking for a name for the main character protrayed by Slyvester Stallone in the movie.  Morrel's wife came in from the market and said why not use an apple name! The rest is history and all this goes to show you that once again the apple provides the bases for so many good stories throughout history.

With Ramborn being the only cidery in the country the support is massive from both the locals and the government.

Visting Ramborn

  • The 1781 barn at Ramborn is original.
  • The architecture is based upon the style that is classically Marie Thersea of Austria, the country that once ruled this area. There is a center square courtyard and the barn that housed a cidery and distillery has been turned into a cinema.

Taking a Tour of Ramborn

  • The tour is 1 1/2 hours long and includes a movie that you can hear a short clip of in this podcast.
  • The movie does play in different languages.
  • The tour brings you through the production area and the farm.
  • Ramborn Cider can accommodate up to 140 people per time.
  • There is also a walking tour through the time.
  • There is no tasting room, but upon request there is a dinning area that can be reserved for group dinners.

Ramborn Cider Company - Ciders

  • Original - flagship cider
  • Farmhouse
  • Somerset Blend
  • Perry
  • Avalon 2015
  • Hopped Cider Cascade
  • Erbachhofer - single Variety
  • Kingston Black - Single Variety

Contact for Ramborn Cider Company

Website: https://ramborn.com/en/about/

Telephone: +352 26 72 92 04
Address:

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

May 16, 2018

Cider won big at the 23rd Annual Home-brew Competition held in Boston and put on by the Wort Processors - a home-brew club. Tom Bell’s New World Cider won both Best in Show for cider and placed 3rd in the Best Overall in Show. This means that Tom’s winning cider was placed in the final competition for Best Overall with 37 winning beers.

Best of Show Winners Circle

1st Maurice Dalton’s -  Gueze

2rd Matthew Border -  German Pils

3rd Tom Bell - New World Cider

4th Brett Smith : Chocolate Raspberry Milk Stout

Honorable Mention - Peter Bowers: Specialty Wood Aged

Tom’s cidermaking tools & techniques for this cider

  • A garbage disposal for grinding up apples
  • Added Pectin Aid
  • Macerated the pressed apples for 24 hours
  • Pressed in a basket press
  • Wild yeast - then EC118 for the bottle fermentation
  • Initial gravity: 1.064
  • Racked every 10 point drop in the gravity and to separate the cider from the lees
  • Everything was going great until a Pectic Haze showed up
  • For the haze Tom used Scott’s Lab Spectrum
  • It didn’t take care of the pectin on the bottom, but did clear the cider on the top of the pectic gel.
  • Bottle conditioned with 12 grams of dextrose

Here is the link to the crown cap conversation.

Many aspects of champagne style cider covered here including links to caps..

Contact for Wort Processor’s Home-brew Competition

Website: http://www.bhc.wort.org/

Annual Boston Home-brew Competition

Wort Processors

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GLINTCAP - Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition

Franklin County CiderDays 

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  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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May 9, 2018

Matt DeLong grew up making cider and what he once called “Apple Wine”. Western Michigan has what is known as the wine trail and there are lots of fruit wines, so it is no surprise that Matt first considered a career in the wine industry.

Things started to change around 2009 - 2010 when he noticed a whole lot of ciders in his area of west Michigan popping up.

He credits the support of his wife Valerie for helping him hone his vision and open Ridge Cider Company in 2014. The cidery is based in the town of Grant, Michigan in a building that was once used to process onions.

Time Line of change for Ridge CiderCo - to Ride Cider LLC

  • Matt teamed up with Bruce Rasch in 2014, one of the largest apple growers in the same region
  • Matt began selling cider commercially in 2015.
  • Not discussed in this chat is that Ridge Cider Co. sold its majority share to RC Investors, in April of 2017. RC is an investment firm owned by Dick Devos, husband of Betty Devos - the current U.S. Education Secretary in the Trump Administration.

In this chat we discuss 3 Ridge Ciders -

  • Porch Sittin - notes of vanilla and cinnamon - this is the flagship
  • Raspberry -
  • Hopped

Now in Cans

  • Porch Sittin
  • Berries
  • Hopped

Matt uses an accordion press - or squeeze box that he bought used from a cider house in Maryland, back in 2014.

What would Matt have done differently

  • More definitive plans
  • And know who will be your targeted customers

Contact info Ridge Cider

Website: http://www.ridgecider.com/about/

email: ridgecider@gmail.com

Telephone: (231) 674-2040

Address: smack in the middle of Grant, Michigan

Ridge Cider social media:

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Cider Chat Live episode 1 :Boston Judging Best in Show Competition https://anchor.fm/ciderchat/episodes/BOSTON--Judging-Best-In-Show-Cider-e1e4hf.

  • Winners of the 23rd Annual Boston Hombrew Competion - A New World Cider won Best in Show for Ciders. This cider moved onto the Best in Show for the entire competition and was awarded 3rd place. First and Second place went to beers.
  • Listen to episode 128 next week and hear Tom Bell telling us how he made his award winning cider that captured Best in Show.

Upcoming Competions

Upcoming Festivals

Michigan Cider Week - Cider Chat will be at the Gillette Bride Cider Fest on May 19th - 1-5pm

June 9, 2018 The Pressed Fest begins at 2pm - 6pm in Longmont, Colorado

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  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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May 2, 2018

Little Pomona’s makers, Susanna and James Forbes have a long history with libations. James worked as a wine buyer and marketer, while Susanna who started in physics became one of the UK’s leading libation writers. Do check out her website and blog Drink Britain, it will be time well spent.

Listen to this chat with Susanna and James as they tell their tale of moving out of city and into the country to begin selling Little Pomona commercially in 2015.

The orchard is located in Herefordshire, in the town of Bromyard.

Little Pomona Ciders

There is no doubt that these ciders are stepping out! Read: not your typical UK cider.

James’ background in wine is certainly influencing the profile of each cider produced. If ever there was a cider that would be worthy of buying one now to drink and 5 more to cellar, Little Pomona is the cidery to choose.

Delicate, yet bold, each cider that I tasted during this chat was complex, tannic and not your typical UK cider.

Little Pomona Ciders coming up for 2018

  • Old Man and The Bees - 7.5% wild yeast cider
    • Dabinet
    • Harry Masters Jersey
    • Foxswhelp
    • Ellis bitter
  • The Unicorn - a spontaneous keeved cider
    • We “Shaked it to wake it” and then drank it in this chat! Lovely
  • Art of Darkness (2015)
  • Being released at the London Wine Fair on the 22nd of May 2018 go to (stand DB15) and find C’est Si Bon Bonnes (2016), a single barrel bottling
  • In July 2018 look for Perry Comma, a single barrel bottling in Pet Nat style form the 2017 vintage. The fruit came from a very ancient orchard close to Dymock in Gloucestershire.
  • In August, look for another Pet Nat with a blend of Dabinett (95%) and Ellis Bitter (5%) from the 2017 harvest, called For Those About to Rack.

Contact Felix at the Fine Cider Company distributes Little Pomona ciders in the UK.

Contact Little Pomona

Website: http://www.littlepomona.com/

Telephone: +44 1885 410645

Email: mailto:enquiries@littlepomona.com

Address:

  • Thornbury, Bromyard
  • HR7 4NJ, UK

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  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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Apr 25, 2018

Paul Vander Heide opened Vander Mill a cidery based in Spring Lake Michigan in 2008. Some might think that 3000 square feet is a good size for a start up cidery and they would be right. But as Paul reminisces in this chat, they had to expand quickly when they had to move outdoors to continue production.

In 2016, a new location was open in Grand Rapids. Both locations have a Tap Room and Restaurant.

Vander Mill makes both modern ciders and Heritage ciders.

Go to 31:57 in the podcast to hear Paul discuss the question of what is a Heritage apple in the US.

At CiderCon2018 Paul was elected as the new President of the United States Association of Cider Makers.  He is very optimistic about cider in America and speaks about embracing the diversity of makers in the US, which range from traditional, modern to a blend of both.

For Vander Mill the consumers informed this maker on the styles that they make, says Paul “ It was the consumer that drove our business into a wide range of styles for Vander Mill. The cidery makes both Heritage and Modern ciders.

And while the cider drinker’s palate slowly changes towards more subtle notes, Paul is not waiting on planting cider apple varieties. He credits Vander Mill’s partnership with a local grower who has put in a large block of cider apples for making the future look quite bright….or…er…full bodied and tannic. :)

Find Vander Mill ciders, distributed in:

  • Michigan
  • Wisconsin
  • Ohio
  • Indiana
  • Illinois

Draft accounts throughout Michigan and Chicago with a sprinkling of draft accounts throughout the other states

Contact Vander Mill

Spring Lake location

  • Telephone: 616-842-4337
  • Address for Tap Room & Restaurant
    • 14921 Cleveland Street Spring Lake
    • Michigan, 49456
      • Hours:
        • Sunday Brunch 10-2pm
        • Wed & Thurs 2-9pm
        • Fri 2-10pm
        • Sat 11-10pm
          • 2-4pm snacks, 4pm dinner starts

Grand Rapids Tap Room, Restaurant & Production

  • Telephone: 616-259-8828
  • Address for Tap Room & Restaurant
    • 505 Ball Ave NE
    • Grand Rapids, MI 49503
      • Hours:
        • Sunday Brunch 9am-3pm
        • Mon-Thurs 11am-11pm
        • Fri-Sat 11am-12am

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6-degrees of Cider - share the news on the Totally Cider Tour headed to Normandy France September 23-29, 2018

Allan Hyland maker at Door Peninsula Winery who sent a box of 3 ciders to Ria.

  • Mimosa
  • Modern
  • Heritage

Virtue Cider - view the unboxing of the Rosé ciders sent to Ria.

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  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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Apr 18, 2018

Kirk Billingsley has been charmed by cider ever since he was a kid. Coming home from school he fondly remembers being mentored by his dad who had a barrel of sweet cider (non fermented apple juice) outside the family’s home in the same county of Highland where he still lives today. In 2015 he opened Big Fish Cider Company after making cider non commercially for 25 years in his home.

This chat was recorded at CiderCon2018. Sarah Collins Simmons who works with Kirk also joined us and offered a great perspective on the orchard care of all the trees helping Big Fish make such delicious cider.

Big Fish Apples

Varieties at the main apple orchard

  • Golden Russet
  • Northern Spy
  • Jonagold
  • Ashmead Kernel
  • Dolgo crab apples

In total Big Fish has around 300 trees to pick from. Most, if not all, are heritage trees that were planted over a 100 years ago on farmland that was long forgotten.

  • On any given day they are pressing 250 gallons of cider.

Cidermaking technique used at Big Fish: Slow & cold ferment

With an occasional bit of back sweetening because the apples are so acid (sweet helps to balance out the acid)

Use small 2000 liter and 1000 liter tanks and Oxygen barrier IBC

Big Fish has a Tasting Room

  • The room is currently 400 square feet and has 3 tables and 12 chairs
  • This year they are expanding the Tasting Room…maybe there will be 6 tables and 24 chairs.
  • Kirk bought the building a while back. It was built in 1920 and built with wood called Wormy Chestnut

Kirk’s Cidermaking Tip:

  • Experiment with yeast
  • Look at areas of the world that like the style of cider that you do.

Contact for Big Fish Cider Company

  • Website: http://www.bigfishcider.com/
  • eMail: info@bigfishcider.com
  • Telephone: 540-468-2322
  • Address
    • 59 Spruce Street
    • Monterey, VA  24465

Where to stay when visiting Big Fish Cider Co?

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat
  13. Ironbark Ciderworks, Claremont, California

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Apr 11, 2018

Poiré Fermier is French for Perry Farmer, which is only part of the story for the featured guest in this episode 123. Cidermaker Philippe and wife Marie-Claire Derouault also manage a herd of dairy cows who graze and laze among orchards of apples and pears on their 120 hectares (297 acres) situated in Loré, France.

There are 14 Poiré producers in this region of southern Normandy and the Perry they make is known as Poiré Domfront.

Here Calvados is made with a base of Poiré rather than cider. The standard is to have up to 70% Poiré in this region's Calvados which has the following appellations

  • an AOC or Appellation d’Origine Contrôlée (since 2002),
  • an AOP(*) or Appellation d’Origine Protégée, is equivalent to the AOC in Europe (since 2006).

Pears used in this region Normandy

  • Plant de Blanc - up to 40% of the juice for Poiré must come from this pear.
  • Rouge Vigné
  • Gros Blot
  • Plant Roux
  • De Cloche
  • Gaubert

Here the pear trees are hundreds of years old. Notably, Pear trees were already growing in Normandy in the 11th century, before the cider apples arrived via Northern Spain.

Come explore this region of France, meet the maker and drink Poiré and Cidre with Cider Chat Host Ria Windcaller via the Totally Cider Tour to Normandy September 23-29, 2018.

Philippe and Marie-Claire's farm "Earl du Bois" is on the tour!

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Cider Festivals

Cider Competitions

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat

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Apr 4, 2018

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Cider enthusiast Michel Dargent hosted  Ria at his home in September 2017. Monsieur Dargent is a cider aficionado, making the two night stay at his gîte (bed & breakfast) the perfect stop on Ria’s cider tour of Normandy.

Listen in on this intimate conversation as we discuss the ancient pear trees in the Domfront region, blood sausage and a very special cidermaker.

Monsieur Dargent made the evening dinner with all local products from a nearby farm and served each dish with a cider (cidre) and perry (poiré).

Régis Angot, the maker, will be one of the stops on the upcoming Totally Cider Tour to Normandy September 23 -29, 2018. Click here to for reservations.

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Mar 28, 2018

Tieton Cider Works was founded by Marcus Roberts and is based in Yakima Washington. Tieton works with Harmony Orchards which has 55 acres of cider apples and perry pears.

Marcus who takes a scientific approach to making cider and perry, is the General Manager of Tieton Cider Works overseeing both a modern and traditional approach to cider making.

In this chat Marcus shares how Tieton using the technique called keeving to make Perry.

Tieton Cider Works, WA

Why make Keeved Cider or Perry?

Keeving provide a sweet profile without needing to add sugar (back sweetening) when bottling.

Growing Perry Pears

Tieton has eight different varieties of Perry Pears and uses a trellis system for the pear trees. Marcus is testing the old adage “growing pears for your heirs” finding that by using a trellis system for growing in 4 years, the trees grew 12 feet!

Tieton plants trees 12 feet across and 5 feet between trees - a 12 x 5 trellis system

The limbs are trained down the wire on the trellis system.

Picking Perry Pears

Color pick the pears.

  • Pick when green- which Marcus says they develop more aroma when stored.
  • Versus picking it “dead ripe” on the tree.
  • Marcus monitors the pear to see if the pear turning yellow on the outside.
  • Once ripe, they must be pressed within 24 hours to avoid the pears turning to mush.

Tieton Perry Making methods

  • Macerate over the course of 24 hours - for the tannin structure.
  • Leaves the pulp on the juice.

Marcus says, “Some of the tannins are solvable. By leaving tannins on the juice during the process of Maceration the tannins become more supple. This is what we are going for.”

Once done, Tieton then goes through the keeving process with the perry.

Managing citric acid when making perry.

  • Manage the bacterias that produce acetic bacteria by temperature control.
  • Tieton manages it by temperature control. around 34 degrees Fahrenheit.
  • It took 5 months to drop 5 brixs at that temperature.
  • When it the peak time to drink a high tannin Perry.
  • Tannin helps the perry or cider age very slowly can cellar for a longer time and will have the tendency to get better over time.

Contact Tieton Cider Works

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Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat

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Mar 21, 2018

Noble Cider in Asheville, North Carolina opened in 2013 after Trevor Baker lost his job in online retail. He wasn’t a cidermaker at the time, but he and his wife Joanna both enjoyed drinking cider.

After taking a cidermaking course with Peter Mitchell at WSU Mount Vernon, he delved straightaway into getting his own commercial cidery with his wife and business partner Lief Stevens.

Noble was started with around 17 grand! Having a “good business plan with a good business model” says Trevor, “Helped us secure an economic development loan of $40,000."

Before Noble became fully permitted they juiced apples and froze them in IBC totes, which are large plastic containers used throughout Ciderville around the globe for making cider.

The Tasting Room and production facility is a little outside of downtown Asheville, but this summer there will be a brand new Tasting Room right in the heart of the city.

  • Expect 20 taps that include 6 beers and seasonal small batch ciders at the current location
  • Noble makes both modern ciders and traditional ciders.
  • Both can be enjoyed in the Tasting Room and be bought in bottles to go.

The modern cider made year round at Noble

  • The flagship cider is a called The Standard Bearer. It is a crisp, dry cider at 6.9%
  • Village Tart - Cherry Cider
  • Spice Merchant - Chai Cider
  • Golden Arrow - Ginger Cider
  • There is a spring seasonal Blueberry with honey and rosemary

In 2017 the Noble Team began planting heirloom trees - Harrison, Wickson, Roxbury Russets and others

Annual production is around 100,000 gallons a year, up from 2000 gallons the first year.

Contact Noble Cider

Website: www.NobleCider.com

Phone number: 828-575-9622

Address

356 New Leicester Highway

Asheville, NC 28806

Mentions in this Chat

  • Spoke + Spy - Middletown, Connecticut cidery with Ron and Kimberly Sansome
  • Ciderthon - April 29th in the UK - a run that includes drinking cider along the way
  • Totally Cider Tours: Normandy September 23-29, 2018

Normand Cows - totally cider

 

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat

Join the #ciderGoingUP Campaign today! 

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Mar 14, 2018

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Prevention & Correction of Sulfur-Off Odors in Cider Production was presented by Rebecca deKramer, cider specialist at Scott Laboratories at CiderCon2018.

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This chat begins at approximately 9 minutes in.

Rebecca presents on the following topics

  • Defining Sulfur-Off Odors
  • Causes of Sulfur-Off Odors
  • Methodologies for preventing Sulfur-Off Odor formation
  • Methodologies for correcting Sulfur-Off Odors
  • What kind of strains of yeast to use
  • Temperature for fermentation
  • How much yeast to use?

Chemical Elements impacting cider

  • Sulfur - H2S (hydrogen sulfur)
  • mercaptans from by the break down of certain amino acids
    • if they oxidize, Dimethyl sulfide (DMS) or methylthiomethane is an organosulfur compound with the formula (CH3)2S can be produced. DMS is aromatic and can not easily be removed by copper - Rebekka speaks on the use of copper to remove specific odors

The first thing to do for off odor - sulfur

  • aireate
    • the most simplest technique to control off odors?
      • Rack cider off of the gross lees
  • If at the end of fermentation the cider is producing off odors, "simply stirring the gross lees into solution can help."

Most common factor contributing to sulfur off odors?

  • the yeast being stressed

Rebekka's recommendation - "Have happy yeast. If you have happy yeast, you will have a good fermentation. If you have unhappy yeast they will make your life hell."

  • Orchards that use a sulfur based spray for orchard control. Depending upon the timing of the spray it could leave residual copper on the apple, that can affect the cider.

Additional cider and cider yeast considerations

  • The more clarified or concentrated the juice will affect the fermentation as it will have less nutrients for the yeast.
  • Canning cider can make cider suspectible to oxygen

as can some screws caps

24:16 - Fermentation

Indigenous Fermentations or using wild yeast. Rebekka recommends management via nutrient control, because you do not know what yeast is in the driver seat. "It is a leap of faith"

Commercial Pitch - there are numerous options, but make sure to follow the manufacturer's recommendations.

  • If you have no temperature control for fermentation, avoid yeast that require temperature control.
  • Do not under inoculate.  The chances are high that you will have a stressed yeast if you do not follow the manufacturer's recommendations.
  • rehydrate dry yeast before pitching - to nurture a happy yeast environment

Treat as soon as you start smelling an off flavor

Use the Penny Test for finding H2S.

Drop a 1984 or earlier penny into a glass of cider and see if it removes the H2S.

will H2s or a mercaptan

It responds instantly.

If it doesn't respond Rebekka says that the cider is likely in a desulfite form treat with asorbic acid to reduce

Make sure it is a penny that is as old as 19

Contact Scott Laboratories

Mentions in this Chat

Ask for the following cideries and businesses- By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103
  11. Ross on Wye Cider and Perry, UK
  12. Process and Analytical NMR Services - John Edwards provides analytics of cider - stay tuned for his Chemical Fingerprints workshop coming up on Cider Chat

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Mar 7, 2018

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Cider pairs well with food, especially Ethiopian dishes that have spicy overtones.

In this chat, Phillip Kelm and I were both attending CiderCon2018 in Baltimore thus the opportunity to dine at Ebenezer’s Ethiopian Restaurant and chat cider.

This restaurant was chosen because it offered a Bring Your Own Bottle (BYOB) option. I wanted to be able to try Phillip’s bottle of Entropy while dining.

Phillip begins with a pour of the “wild ferment” Entrophy.

We delve into his early beginnings in fermentation science... He started fermenting when he was 16 saying, “I couldn’t buy beer, but could buy a beer kit.” .. something that Phillip learned in Mother Earth News.

He became a mechanical engineer and first worked in the nuclear industry before moving onto brewing.

For most of his career he has been setting up brewing systems around the world via his business Gitche Gumee Brewing Services, a worldwide brewery installation & engineering business.

He also manages the Palau Brewing Company, home of Red Rooster Beers. Currently he is working on a cidery in India and is a partner at the South Korean cidery, The Hand and Apple.

Our dinner was primarily focused around his cidery based in Michigan’s Upper Peninsula called Gitche Gumee Ciderworks, where he makes what he called “feral ciders”.

 Apples used at Gitche Gumee

  • Foragers bring the apples to the cidery and Phillip in turns produces cider.
  • He pays .20/pound of apples. They are collecting apples by the ton.

Says Phillip, “There is no [apple] pedigree - they are wild chance seedlings.”

Cidermaking technique used for the Entropy

  • no sulfites
  • no water
  • no yeast
  • no sugar
  • Using French oak barrels.
  • The cider is left to do its own thing in the right environment.

Additional cider making notes

  • Select only the best fruit
  • Only the best skin
  • No maceration
  • Rack over the lees
  • By February the cider is out of stainless after it has been racked off the lees at least 2 times already
  • Leave the yeast behind to starve.

Managing Wild Fermentation

  • Make sure that the fruit is “solid and ripe”
  • Apples are matured for at least a few days or a week

Contact Gitche Gumee Ciderworks

Website: http://www.gitchegumeeciderworks.com/

Address:

  • 350 N Lincoln Drive
  • Hancock, MI 49930

Mentions in this chat

Threadbare Cider and Mead

Totally Cider Tour: Normandy - September 23 - 29, 2018 contact ria@ciderchat. com to reserve your space on this upcoming trip.

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg s
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103

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Feb 28, 2018

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In 2000 Rob Miller and his family moved to Frederick County, Maryland after having bought the property that is now called Distillery Lane Ciderworks via an auction. With cider on their mind they immediately got to work creating an 11 acre orchard by planting apple trees

In 2010, Distillery Lane Ciderworks began selling "hard cider" commercially.

Some of the varieties found in the orchard.

  • Tremlett's Bitter
  • Bulmers Norman
  • Porters Perfection
  • Kingston Black

Visiting Distillery Lane Ciderworks

  • This cidery does offer tours.
  • Golf flags are set up throughout the orchard where you can stop and read about apple and cidermaking.
  • Stop in an shop - there is a cider store where you can try samples of nearly all the ciders made.

Where to find/buy Distillery Lane ciders?

  • Baltimore and DC
  • Virgnina
  • West Virginia
  • Pennsylvania

Tour the orchards and stop at any one of the "golf course" flags that have fun apple facts and geology info at each stop

Contact for Distillery Lane Ciderworks

Website: www.distillerylaneciderworks.com 

Address:

  • 5533 Gapland Road
  • Jefferson, MD 21755

Telephone: 214-683-7052

Mentions in this chat

  • DayCider in British Columbia - 120 year old pear orchard covering 85 acres.
    • Follow on Instagram @daycider
  • Fenceline Cider
    • 141 South Main Street, Unit C, Mancos, Colorado
    • website http://fencelinecider.com/
  • Urban Tree Cidery
    • 1465 Howell Mill Rd NW, Ste 100 Atlanta GA 30318
    • website: http://urbantreecidery.com/

Ask for the following ciders - By supporting these cidermakers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103

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Feb 14, 2018

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Rick Moreno opened the doors of Newtopia Cyder in San Diego County California in January 2017. He comes into the trade as an entrepreneur and owner of Tornado Seattle, a bar with a craft beer and spirits focus, also serving cider and food.

Say’s Rick of his new venture with Newtopia Cyder that is both a cidery with Tastig Room, we are “making our own new American style”.

He takes an engaging approach to educating and meeting the San Diego beer palate by having a set standard flight of ciders called “Four Core”

Rick says, “I created a Four Core (flight of ciders) that hits every part of your palate. We use old world wine processes and blend them with new world beer ingredients”

One side of the cidery is flanked with stainless steel tanks for making modern ciders. This variety can be made in 4-6 weeks and usually have a fruit or flavored component. The wall on the other side of the cidery has oak barrels stacked and filled with what Rick calls “Old World Heritage Cider”. The Tasting room has ample seating both indoors and outdoors.

The taps were purposely design to be a bit high to facilitate a long pour as one would do when pouring sidra.

Take home a can or crawler of cider of any of the Four Core Ciders.

Join the Member Club and have access to all of the ciders being poured as a take home option.

What to look forward to in the coming year from Newtopia Cyder?

  • Distilling an Apple Jack Brandy in March 2019.
  • Expansion into a 4000 square foot building area next door with a meat and cheese parlor too.
  • There are 10 acres not on site but not too far away that is being used to grow cider apples. This location will be used as a destination site for weddings and events.

Rick calls the growing Newtopia scene “a compound”. The feel though industrial is warm and engaging. Exactly what cider fans want in their cider compound.

The logistics low down on Newtopia Cyder

  • Newtopia is Open 7 days a week.
    • Monday-Wednesday 3 PM - 9 PM
    • Thursday-Friday 12 PM - 10 PM
    • Saturday 11 AM - 10 PM
    • Sunday 11 AM - 9 PM
  • 12-15 minute ride from San Diego Airport.
  • Of note: the road that Newtopia is on also has 56 breweries on that same road! Yes there is room for cider!

Contact info for Newtopia Cyder

Mentions in this chat

1. Rack over cider now. If you made cider in the fall and it has gone through primary fermentation any lees that has dropped to the bottom of the carboy will begin to affect the cider by creating off odors and flavors.

2. Place orders now for fruit trees, root stock, and scion wood for Spring plantings and grafting.

Sources:

Cummins Nursery I am going in on an order w/friend of Ciderville Joby and William. We are ordering a pear rootstock from Cummins Nursery. Stay posted!

Fedco - a great resource. The catalogues are beautiful.

Fedco’s Tree catalogue and also their Seed catalogue is like reading a piece of art. The discount deadline for orders has passed. But you can still place orders until March 9th, except for scion wood.

John Bunker who was on both episode 16 - where we talk generally about the trees in the US and episode 28 where he provides great insight on tree identification, is definitely worth a listen

Colin Scott of E & J Scott Orchard sells saplings of Apple varieties such as Northern Spy and Redfield, plus more. He is located in western Massachusetts in the town of Buckland. Listen to his episode 93 on Orchard Care and Apple Storage. You will find his contact info on the show notes.

If you have a good resource of for fruit trees and root stock out there in Ciderville send me ria@ciderchat.com and I will share that good news.

Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia
  10. Tanuki Cider Co. Santa Cruz California episode 103

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Feb 7, 2018

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Baltimore Speaks Cider recaps this podcaster's travel to CiderCon, while at CiderCon and the trip home from CiderCon.

I left on Sunday (Day 1) traveling as far as Bethlehem PA. The next day Monday (Day 2) I was set to meet with Joe Getz of Kurant Cider at the Free Will Brewing Company in Perkasie PA. Joe and I sipped on cider and visited the barrel room.

From Kurant, I headed straight to Frederick Maryland. That evening I was pulled over by Officer Kind. A fun little story - that I will save for you to listen to in the podcast.

Day 3 - I headed to Distillery Land CiderWorks - to record a podcast and also had a chance to see Chuck Shelton of Albemarle CiderWorks in Virginia.

After lunch I headed into Baltimore for CiderCon and got ready for that night's dinner recording with Phillip Kelm of Gitche Gumee CiderWorks in Michigan. We went to a BYOB restaurant called Ebenezer's Ethiopian Restaurant. Great food and kind people.

Day 3 I had an early morning chat (8:45 am) with Trevor Baker of Noble Cider in Asheville North Carolina. And then a recording with Marcus Robert of Tieton Ciderworks, Washington.

That evening I met up with Kirk Billingsley for a chat on his cidery Big Fish Cider Company in Virginia.

Day 4 - Thursday was the opening day at CiderCon- Danny Brager of Nielsen did an overview of the cider market. You can go to this YouTube link to listen to last year's presentation on this topic. Then it was time to record with Paul Vander Heide of Vander Mill a cidery in Michigan.

Lunch I was again recording, this time with Dan Brown of Cyder Market LLC. Both Danny and Dan's presentations will be posted on Cider Chat's YouTube channel.

After lunch I recorded and videotaped John Edwards presentation on Chemical Fingerprints of Cider. Very fascinating.

I next ran to Rebbeka deKramer of Scott Lab's presentation on Off Odors in Cider. Again this will be posted on the Cider Chat's YouTube channel.

Next I had a chat with Matt DeLong of Ridge Cider in Michigan. And then had dinner with Carlo Hein of Ramborn Cider Company in Luxembourg.

Day 4 (Friday) I met and recorded with Alex Peckham of Peckham's Cider in New Zealand. That afternoon I recording with James and Susanna Forbes of Little Pomona Cidery & Orchard in the UK.

Friday evening I went to Pour the Core- Baltimore to record mini chats with cider fans - all of which are posted in this episode

Saturday it was time to head home, but as I was traveling with the Talking Pommes we had to make a stop along the way at Perryville Maryland. Perry Pear was both emotional and ecstatic. You can hear the Talking Pommes recap at the end of this podcast.

I had mini chats with the following cideries and their makers while at CiderCon

Heartwood Farm and Cidery in Canada

Tod Creek Craft Cider in British Columbia

Bryant Cider, Virginia

Liquid Alchemy Beverages, Deleware

Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia

 

 

 

Jan 31, 2018

Lee Reeve arrived in Japan in 2003 as an artist from the United Kingdom Today in Yokohama, he is still crafting his magician skills, but his love of cider has led him into Japan’s growing cider market.

We chat on the current pulse of cider in the country and what Lee is doing to help inspire cider  makers and consumers alike. And:

  • What kind of apples are used in Japan to make cider and is this changing.
  • French vs English cider
  • Cider events in Japan

Lee sees that cider being package in primarily large bottles 750ML as a deterrent to the general public at large not reaching for cider when it is only packaged in large bottles

And, the world “cider” in Japan usually refers to a carbonated alcopop versions of cider. Yet, there are many French cidres (the Japanese do use this kind of spelling widely for cider) available, but as mentioned, Lee being from Scotland means he obviously has a hankering for ciders styles that harken back to his homeland.

All this cider love lead Lee to meeting Clive Poole the owner of the Full Monty British Pub and Cider House with 7 draft lines of cider and over 80 bottle option too! Lee and Clive created a working relationship where Lee would write about the cider at the Full Monty and in turn get cider. Along with Kai, Clive’s wife, these three entrepreneurs founded the World Cider Experience and now have the magazine InCiderJapan.

What is InCiderJapan?

  • - a media, promotion, consulting company
  • - also an importing and retailing cider related good and merchandise.
  • - InCiderJapan is a quarterly magazine with the first edition being this winter’s edition of InCiderJapan.

The goal of InCiderJapan magazine is three fold

  • to be educational and informative for the public
  • to provide a platform to Japanese makers
  • to provide the world with a insider’s view of the Japanese cider market

Contact for Lee Reeve

eMail: mailto:contact@worldciderexperience.com 

Website: inCiderJapan

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/inciderjapan

Instagram: @inciderjapan

Full Monty British Pub and Cider House

http://fullmontyyokohama.com/

 Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albermale CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia

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Jan 24, 2018

Jake Mann’s family legacy goes back to the early days of the Apple growing in the California. His parent’s ranch Five Mile Orchard is a locally known historical location, where his great, great grandfather Sam L. Mann settled and built the apple storage facility and orchard in the early 1920’s.

The family ranch is located five miles north of the city of Watsonville, thus the name, “Five Mile Orchard”. 17 varieties of apples are grown with the majority being Newtown Pippin. The Gravenstein apple is the first variety on the market in late July, followed by Gala, Golden, Red Delicious, Winter Banana, Bellefleur, Mutsu, Empire, Granny Smith and the Newtown Pippin.

In this chat we tour the Apple Storage facility at Sam L Mann Co and ride out into the orchard.

Sam L Mann Co provides apples to the following cideries.

Contact info for Jake Mann

  • 2930 Freedom Boulevard
  • Watsonville, California 95078
  • +001- 800-643-2462

Instagram: @thefivemileorchard

Ask for the following 9 #ciderGoingUP Campaign sponsors - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Cider Chat

  1. Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania : listen to Joe Getz on episode 14
  2. Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC : listen to Danielle von Scheiner on episode 35
  3. Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK ; listen to Tom Oliver on episode 29
  4. Santa Cruz Cider Company - California : listen to Nicole Todd on episode 60
  5. The Cider Project aka EthicCider- California
  6. Albemarle CiderWorks : listen to Chuck Shelton on episode 56
  7. Cider Summit : listen to Alan Shapiro founder of this cider fest on episode 75.
  8. Ramborn Cider Co. Luxembourg.
  9. Big Fish Cider Co. Virginia

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