Cider Chat

Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!
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Jun 29, 2016

Tim Larsen was at the all day event, Pour the Core in Brooklyn, NYC waiting on a long line of thirsty cider drinkers. During a the break between sessions I was able to squirrel away with Tim in a back corner of the Brooklyn Expo Center and chat Snowdrift ciders and their perry.


In this chat Tim and I discuss:

Snowdrift Ciders - see below the 9 ciders that recently all won awards in April of 2016.

cidermaking components such as,

  • anthocyanin pigments generate the rose hue in rosé cider during cidermaking.
  • polyphenolics in cider
  • Procyanins - are members of the proanthocyanidin (or condensed tannins) class of flavonoids.
  • Bittersharp ( low in tannin and high in acid) vs Bittersweet (high in tannin, low in acid and high in sugar) apples for cider

2016 GLINTCAP Awards for Snowdrift Ciders

  • Barrel-aged Cornice 7.5% -  Old World Heritage/Best in Class
  • Cornice - English Cider/Gold
  • Reserve Perry - Tradtional Perry/Gold
  • Red Cider 7.5% - New World Cider Modern/Silver
  • Seckly Perry - New World Perry/Silver
  • Sickled Pear - Reserved Perry
  • Cliffbreaks Blend 7.5% - New World Cider Heritage/Silver
  • Orchard Select 8.3% - New World Cider Heritage/Bronze
  • Semi Dry - New England Cider/Bronze

Contact for Snowdrift Cider

Address: 277 Ward Ave, East Wenatchee, WA 98802

Telephone: (509) 630-3507



Twitter: @snowdriftcider

what does Tim drink when he doesn't have a Snowdrift in hand?


Alpen Cider

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Jun 22, 2016

Shannon Edgar's new cidery in the historical Cider town of Sherborn Massachusetts is already winning awards! In spring of 2016, at Michigan's Great Lakes International Cider and Perry Competition (GLINTCAP) Stormalong Hard Cider took home 5 medals! Look at the bottom of the page for the listing.

This chat begins with Shannon and Benjamin Roberts-Sano who works with Shannon creating their delicious ciders by discussing Sherborn's cider  history and the Holbrook Cider Mill (1890). The mill exported Holbrook's Champagne Cider to Great Britain, Denmark, Germany and Belgium and in the US as far as Texas and Nebraska. It was advertised as "The World's Largest Cider Mill" producing 1.25 million gallons of cider per year.

The mill also invented and patented the Steam-Powered Cider Press (1871) and used sand to filter the cider to remove "impurities". The mill was the largest employer in the town.

We then discuss the folklore hero A. B. Stormalong, who throw back barrels of cider like you and I drink pints. This sea faring storybook character felt like the right fit for Shannon to use in the branding of his cider.

Stormalong Hard Ciders

Legendary 6.9%

The Grand Banks 9.5%

Dry Hopped 

And Stormalong has a Rare Apple Series too!


Kingston Black


GLINTCAP 2016 awards for Stormalong Hard Cider

Category: New World- Modern

  • Bronze: Stormalong Cider – Boston Heirloom
  • Bronze: Stormalong Cider – Legendary Dry

Category: English

  • Silver: Stormalong Cider – Kingston Black

Category: Hopped/Herbal

  • Silver: Stormalong Cider – Dry Hop

Wood Aged Cider and Perry

  • Bronze: Stormalong Cider – The Grand Banks – Whiskey

Contact info for Stormalong:

Twitter: @stormalongcider


Tasting Room for Stormalong?

Visit Heritage of Sherborn which features flights of Stormalong

More on Alfred Bulltop Stormalong - watch a fun tale via YouTube

Patrons of Cider Chat can listen to the full conversation with Shannon and Ben discussing cidermaking techniques with barrels, bottle conditioning or not, and cider analysis.

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Jun 15, 2016

Danielle von Scheiner is putting the "BIG" back into New York City's apple love, with her new cidery Big Apple Hard Cider.

She began learning the science of fermentation at the age of 12 while helping her dad make wine. More recently she began experimenting with apples and then after a motorcycle accident (she was hit by a NY cab) she thought of the old saying "We all have two lives and the second one starts the moment you realize you only have one". From that point on she been going 'full throttle' into cidermaking.

Where can you find Big Apple Hard Cider? As it is a new cidery, it is still rolling out as this podcast goes live in the month of June. I recommend asking for Big Apple at your favorite cider taps and stores and when you head to New York check the Big Apple website

Big Apple Ciders mentioned in this chat? And do note that Danielle's makes ciders that are inspired by the people of New York City and its boroughs. 

Brooklyn - inspired by a dear friend that Danielle speaks about on in this chat. This cider won a gold medal (2016).

Navy Yard - conditioned in a "Peated" bourbon barrel from Kings County Distillery.

Hell's Kitchen - made with Sriracha sauce

The gift box pictured above and mentioned in this chat from Murray's Cheese had inside. Eclectic names for each cheese that would make any cider lover smile wide and say "More please!"

  • Roomano 3 Year
  • Ewephoria Sheep Milk Gouda
  • Saint Stephens Four Fat Foul
  • Apple Locust Honey
  • MAST sea salt chocolate

Barrels used by Big Apple Hard Cider

What to do while in NYC or Danielle's notable locations.

Gingerman  - has ciders on tap or in bottle

Wassail - New York City's ciderbar

Brass Monkey

Standard Beirgarten

Kobrick Coffee

Drunk Shakespeare

Contact info for Big Apple Hard Cider

Twitter: @BigAppleCider 

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Jun 8, 2016

Adam Krakowsk's new book Vermont Prohibition: Teetotalers, Bootleggers & Corruption (2016 Arcadia Press) carves out the state of Vermont's cider, beer, and spirits history in relationship to prohibition.

Vermont Prohibition covers, the politics, policy, economics, religion and social impact that prohibition had on Vermont.

Read about the Liquor Law of 1853 that targeted distilled spirits while conveniently protecting cider.

1880's to 1890s the term Hard Cider started being used in the law books. So was Hard Cider considered adulterated cider? The jury is out, but the verdict feels pretty close.

In this chat Adam discusses:

  • Why Vermont actually had 80 years of prohibition
  • The Temperance movement
  • The difference between ethanol alcohol and methanol alcohol
  • How the law was written to help cider avoid prohibition
  • NASCAR's ( National Association for Stock Car Auto Racing) relationship to prohibition
  • Switchel 
  • Adam Krakowski's book on Vermont Beer

Adam also writes a bimonthly column for Yankee Brew News on Vermont craft brewers.



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Jun 1, 2016

This is Part 2 of the chat at Farnum Hill Cider.

In this chat, we delve into tasting 7-ciders with the team at Farnum Hill Cider. Steve Woods, whom along with his wife Louisa D. Spencer founded Farnum Hill Ciders, first explains how this tasting, which takes place 3-4 times per week, is conducted.

The descriptors fly, laughter follows and somehow despite tasting 7-ciders the team is able to stay on task and get their notes completed as they work towards perfecting their cider.

We then head back up to the orchard with Nicole Leibon and Steve to finish our chat from last week. We explore terroir and discuss the cider market. Soon Louisa Spencer arrives to join in and Nicole heads home.

This chat is a treasure trove of cider info and a front seat to a chat where we wrangle with what is currently going on with cider, how Farnum Hill is maneuvering the market and misconceptions on cider apples.

Topics covered in this chat

  • Will the cider market crash?
  • What can we find out from the craft beer market?
  • What defines Farnum Hill Cider?
  • Should cider be saved for special occasions?
  • Listen to 031: Steve Wood | Farnum Hill Cider, NH (Part 1)


    Contact and Visiting info Poverty Lane Orchards & Farnum Hill Ciders
    98 Poverty Lane
    Lebanon, New Hampshire 03766
    Office:(603) 448-1511
    Fax: (603) 448-7326

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