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Cider Chat

Interviewing cidermakers importers, orchardists, foodies, farmers and cider enthusiasts around the world. Let’s delve into the semantics of cider…or is it hard cider, cidre, sidra or fermented apple juice? The truth is out there in Ciderville and we are going to find it. We toast in celebration of cider; As a libation, a gift from the gods, a taste of terroir, and a hard pressed good time. Ready to quench your thirst? Grab a glass and join this chat! See you in Ciderville!
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Nov 30, 2016

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Eric Bordelet is both the maker and the brand at Chateau de Hauteville in the southern edge of Normandy in the village of Châtaigne. The fact that he exports 80% of his ciders to markets around the world at a premium price worthy of a fine wine is just one of the reasons that the brand Eric Bordelet is so highly sought after by both wine and cider enthusiasts.

This episode is Part 1 of a two-part chat. Part 2 will follow as episode 058.

During this chat The Nose and I are having lunch with Eric at the Hôtel Gayot in the lovely and lively village Bagnoles de l'Orne. You will find Eric’s cider on tap at this hotels restaurant - though it might not say anything other than “cider” it is indeed Bordelet!  There is also a shop where you can buy many of Eric’s cider’s and poires (perry) and calvados.

Listen to the background sounds of lunch time at as we discuss his path towards cider, beginning when he worked as a waiter, then a sommelier. Part of Eric's fame is that in Paris at the time his wine list was second to none...and for France not to mention Paris that is quite a feat.

With his parents retirement and the realization that one could not age into the role of a sommelier he decided to head back to the family farm and make cider.

Eric discusses how his interest in food and working with chefs, helped to hone his cider skills. And certainly the impact of his late friend and mentor Didier Daganeau.

In Part 2 we tour the rebuilding of the Chateau de Hauteville and the chay (the common phrase in this region for cidery). 

Contact Eric Bordelet

Eric Bordelet
Chateau de Hauteville
53250 Charchigné - France
 
Website: http://www.ericbordelet.com/
Tel : 0243039572
Fax: 0243000936email : eric@ericbordelet.com
 
 
049: Agathe Letelier : Manoir d'Apreval, France

050: Didier Bedu |President I.D.A.C, France

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Ask for the following 3 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

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Nov 23, 2016

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Chuck Shelton of Albemarle Ciderworks & Vintage Virginia Apples weighs in on blending and single apple variety ciders and the complexity of cidermaking. 

 This Virginia cidery is a family run business on a farm that was purchased by the Shelton Family. Today the business side of the cidery is managed by his sister Charlotte, while Chuck overseas the cider. Their brother  Bill is the Nursery Manager and Bill’s daughter Anne Shelton is the General Manager. This is a142 acre farm with a 12 acre orchard, where they grow over 250 varieties! The soil is red clay or what Chuck calls a “rocky. red clay”.

The Sheltons tend to apple tree for the cidery and also sell trees. Their friendship with Virginian Tom Buford, has been fruitful for the family not only because he is consider now part of the family, but due to his extensive knowledge of Apples. Tom is the author of Apple of North American: Exceptional Varieties for Growers, Gardeners and Cooks, which won the 2014 American Horticulture Society book Award.

Chuck Shelton was an “amateur cidermaker” for 7 years before he took a class in 2006 with Peter Mitchell, who teaches cidermaking. In 2008 the Sheltons obtained the licensing to open Albemarle and in 2009 the cidery was opened to the public.

Visitors can purchased ‘fresh pressed apple juice” for consumption and a full range of blended and single variety ciders. Chuck provided lots of tidbits on how he does a blended cider and single variety ciders.

Chuck describes Albemarle as a four prong business

  1. Fresh Pressed Juice
  2. Cider
  3. Classes on pruning, grafting, planning a home orchard
  4. Cider Forum

Contact info for Albemarle Ciderworks and Vintage Virginia Apples

Tasting Room and Information

2545 Rural Ridge Lane
North Garden, VA  22959
Tasting Room Hours and Information

Office Phone: 434.297.2326
Tasting Room Phone: 434.979.1663
Email: fruit@albemarleciderworks.com

If you like Cider Chat and want to support more episodes like this chat with Chuck Shelton Ask for the following 3 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

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Nov 18, 2016

Apple songs and sing-a-longs helps put a rhythm to the work day and marks Wassail celebrations around the world.

This week's chat we begin with a fun Apple Song led by David Gott, who has worked as a pruner and maker of fresh pressed Sweet Cider. David's banjo style and ability to lead a group in a sing-a-long is reminiscent of the late and legendary singer/songwriter Pete Seeger.

The beginning of this chat, which by the way I recorded while sitting on the floor at my AirBnB while away from home for work, I chat on the basics of 'racking cider over' once the initial fermentation is done.

Tips for racking cider.

  • Sanitize all your racking equipment, the outside of the carboy and inside the new carboy (5 or 3 gallon glass vessel).
  • Use food grade tubing,
  • Use a clothes pin to hold the food grade clear tubing at the mouth of the carboy so it doesn't slide down to the bottom and suck up all the "smutch" on the bottom. Leave that behind and pour off into a mason jar once done, then place the jar into your refrigerator and let is separate. You can then drink the clear liquid off and get to know your cider better on its path to conditioning.
  • Use sterile water in the airlock or if you have the cash use vodka in the airlock. The airlock is an S-shaped tube that goes into a stopper. It releases the CO2 that is being produced during the initial fermentation, while keeping Oxygen out.
  • The biggest tip is to have fun.

About 13 minutes in we sing two more songs.

The first is make up by David Gott and Rick Stone called Thick Grow the Branches oh!

The second the Wassail Song

Wait till the end and sing-a-long for an oldie but goodie song.

Mentions in this chat

YouTube video of Ria picking the Lady Apple titled: Real Cidermakers pick their own apples

www.hasegawaladders.com/ light weight apple picking ladders

Episode 003: Robert Colnes | Building a Cider House. Robert passes away this past spring. This Sing-a-long was recorded at the farm where Robert and Carol B. Hillman's son built the ciderhouse. Stunning!

 

 

Ask for the following 3 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

Please Help Support Cider Chat's (Ria's) to CiderCon2017. Please donate today.

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Nov 9, 2016

Mike Schilling delves into the joy of letting a cider go wild, stopping fermentation, double pitching yeast and funky/sour cider.

This chat was recorded before a live audience at Beerology in Northampton Massachusetts on Friday November 4, 2016. Mike and his wife Jordana Starr who co-own the store invited cidermakers traveling to CiderDays to stop in pick up supplies. It is an easy on off location just a block shy of the hub and bub of downtown Northampton. Note that there is ample parking behind the storefront.

In this chat we discuss:

  • Wild yeast
  • Double pitching yeast
  • Fermentation temperatures
  • Making cider in an apartment vs in a cellar

Contact info for Mike Schilling

Beerology - website

Address:

342 Pleasant Street, #1

Northampton, Massachusetts

 Mentions in this chat

"Funky Lama", a nano brewery in Normandy France is making beer with cider from Manoir d'Apreval in Normandy -

The brewers Octave Letellier and Baptiste Guyot do a double yeast adjunct. First with the yeast of the beer and then at the end of the first fermentation of the wort they add the yeast from cider as well as Apple juice. Listen to the chat with Octave Letellier's mom Agathe Letellier episode #049. 

Ask for the following 3 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

 Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

 Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

 Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

 Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

 Please Help Support Cider Chat's (Ria's) trip to the International Hall of Gala Ciders. I am sure I won't have this trip paid off for a while and every little bit counts. Please donate today.

Social Media company mentioned in this chat

We Are Pr - helping small business manage social media

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Nov 2, 2016

Michelle McGrath is the Executive Director of the United States Association of Cider Makers, a trade association for the cider industry. In this episode she chats on the mission of the USACM, the goals for the year, the upcoming Cider Conference (CiderCon) and the Pick Cider initiative for Thanksgiving.

The four core mandates of the Association

  • Advance cider in the market
  • Increase opportunities for peer learning
  • Promoting a cider friendly regulatory environment
  • Supporting the cider apple growers

 

The USACM has over 1300 members. 95% of cidery members are making less than 500,000 gallons/year

Membership in the USACM is tiered.

For instances, The Cidery In Planning is $175.

And there is even a tier level for "Home Cidermaker/Enthusiast" - $75.00 (USD)

Find out more info at http://www.ciderassociation.org/join

Michelle provided an overview of the Cider Act that comes into effect in 2017

  • It will increase the allowable carbonation in cider
  • Increase the allowable alcohol content from 7% to 8.5%
  • Perry will now fall under the definition of allowable cider.
  • And, there is a change in the Bond requirement for small cider producers, if not all alcohol producers. If you owe less than $50,000 a year in taxes, the government is going to stop requiring a Bond. If you already have a Bond, will get it back. BUT YOU have to request your Bond back and prove that you are a small producer.

 

Michelle also discussed:

The Craft Beverage Modernization Act that is still yet to be passed. Within this ACT there is a component that benefits small wineries. It expands the small producers tax credit. Right now the credit is available to producers of 150,000 gallons or less and will up that amount up 750,000 gallons or 3/4 of a million.

And, there will be a Request for Proposals (RFP) for research grants coming up in 2017 too.

What is happening with CiderCon? Where is it?

It takes place on February 8th, 9th and 10th in Chicago.

Here is a sneak peak into this year's special guests from France! Note the dates below might not be set in stone, always check the conference schedule ahead of time.

1.       French Perry - Thursday, Feb. 9th @ 1:30pm – Daufresne PoiréChristian Drouin Poiré.

2.       Keeving - Thursday, Feb. 9th @3:15pm – Le Brun Brut Cidre de Bretegne, Le Brun Organic Cidre (demi-sec), Le Brun Cidre AOP Cornouaille.

3.       Calvados - Friday, Feb. 10th @ 1:30pm – Guillaume Drouin to present on his own and select a range of his Calvados and Pommeau.

4.       Grand Cider Tasting - Friday, Feb. 10th @ 5:15pm – All 3 French presenters on the panel.

What is Pick Cider?

The USACM is helping to promote cider by asking enthusiasts and commercial makers to use the #PickCider on Social Media.

Contact Michelle McGrath

Michelle McGrath

Executive Director

United States Association of Cider Makers (USACM)

Cell: (503) 593 - 1716

email: michelle@ciderassociation.org

Website - Facebook - Twitter - Instagram - LinkedIn 

Mentions in this Chat

Columbia Gorge Cider Society aka Gorge Society that has a Cider Route in Oregon\Washington State Columbia River Gorge area

Cider Chat podcast episodes: 046: Going to CiderDays and 048: CiderDays2016 Schedule

USACM's Cider Certification Program

Find out more on Alan Stone's 2014 book Dorset Cider with An Excursion into the New Forest at the Cider Chat Resource Page

More CiderDays Insider Tips

Where to buy cider while attending CiderDays?

 

November 4th CiderMeetUP at The Root Cellar in Greenfield go to this event page and find out the scoop here! Mini scoop...it takes place from 6pm on. YOU can bring you OWN cider (pay a $5) corking fee and enjoy meeting new friends attending CiderDays.

Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

Please Help Support Cider Chat's (Ria's) trip to the International Hall of Gala Ciders. I am sure I won't have this trip paid off for a while and every little bit counts. Please donate today.

Social Media company mentioned in this chat

We Are Pr - helping small business manage social media

Donate to Cider Chat! Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts.

Follow this podcast on twitter @ciderchat

 

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