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Jan 25, 2017

February 7, 2017 at 4:30pm

Cider Chat at The Northman   

recording chats with patrons on Cider Stories!

Brian Rutzen is the Cider Director at Chicago’s first cider bar, The Northman managing 20 taps of cider, 5 craft beers and in total over a 100 options of cider to partake at this 63 seat bar.

We chat how The Northman helps patrons understand cider, how it is poured, cellaring cider, cider with food, and lots of tips for attendees heading to the windy city for CiderCon (the annual cider conference for members of the United States Association of Cider Makers).

Chicago is a city of neighborhoods - with many of the names reflecting the immigrant groups that settled there. Pilsen for instance got its name from the Czech immigrants and is now housing many Mexican immigrants.

Brian says “Chicago is setup as a grid.” Making it fairly easy to get about

Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

 O'Hare Airport apple history

What does the airport code ORD stand for at this mighty Chicago hub?

Answer: Orchard Field

Taxi to Downtown from O'Hare Airport: $50 bucks (this is not absolute, might be more)

Public Transport from O'Hare to Downtown -$2 (might be a bit more but, no more than $5)

What to expect for cider options in Chicago? 

Brian says that most bars nowadays have at least  2 ciders on tap

Transportation around Chicago?

Uber - Take lake shore drive to get to The Northman from Chicago CiderCon2017 for $15 bucks. Use the promo code CIDERCHAT10 for $10 off your first Uber ride.

Taking the L train from downtown to The Northman will take you 45 minutes

Contact info for Brian and The Northman

Brian’s Twitter handle: @ChicagoCider

website The Northman

address: 4337 N. Lincoln Ave, Chicago

telephone: 773-935-2255

Twitter @TheNorthmanChi

CiderCon February 8th through 10th, 2017Mentions in this Chat

Chicago Cider Summit February 11, 2017

Jake Melnick’s Corner Tap Known for wings and having cider on draft

Vandermill Cider

Places to stop in on Randolph Street as mentioned on this chat

Girl & The Goat

Little Goat

Duck Duck Spin

809 W Randolph Street

Chicago, Illinois

Au Cheval

800 W. Randolph Street

312-929-4580

Kaiser Tiger -

1415 W. Randolph Street

German Sausage, great tastes made with bacon

Cider on Tap

Outside in the Winter: Curling!!!

Listen to the following French cider podcast episodes to prepare for the CiderCon Tastings

049: Agathe Letellier | Manior d"apreval | Normandy - France

050: Didier Bedue |President I.D.A.C., France

057 Eric Bordelet | Normandy, France Part 1


Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.


Big Apple Hard Cider
- NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts.

Follow on twitter @ciderchat

 

Jan 18, 2017

Bartosz Gałka is one of three partner at the Polish cidery "Slow Flow Group".  Along with Łukasz Sobór, Jakub Lorek and Jakub's father,Marcin Lorek, who makes wine and consults to this project  they are helping to put Polish cider on the world map. The cidermaking tradition in Poland dates back to the 16th century, but is only recently gearing up once again..

Slow Flow Group has been making cider since 2011 and marketing it since 2014. It took 2 years to get permitted to sell cider in Poland.

I met up with Bartosz in Asturias, Spain in September of 2016 while we were both attending the International Hall of Gala Ciders.

Slow Flow Group is using apples from local orchards, with most of the trees being 70-80 years old. There is no sugar nor sulfites added to this company's ciders.

The primary Apples used by Slow Flow Group:

  • Grochówka
  • Kronselka
  • Szara - Złota Reneta
  • starking
  • Pepina
  • Malinówka
  • Pinowa
  • Antonówka

They press apples using a Hydraulic press called "Big Mama" which is a basket press

Polish terms in cider and spelling

  • Cider in Poland  is spelled "Cydr" or Jabłecznik
  • Kupaż - to blend cider also written as "coupage"

The Polish Craft Cider Association is: Polskie Cydry Autorskie

Where to find Slow Flow Group's ciders:

Selling locally to wine bars and "good" restaurants, and

  • Czech Republic
  • Slovakia
  • and exploring Northern Spain

Bartosz says, that there "Is a Tasting Room" at the cidery.

Contact for Bartosz Gałka and Slow Flow Group

eMail: slowflowgroup@hotmail.com

Website: http://slowflowgroup.pl/

Address: Komorniki 28

Raciechowice, Poland 32-415

Telephone: +787932582

Bottles Artwork done by Agata Strzelecka from Warsaw

Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

Mentions in this chat:

YouTube clip and song "Forfiter Blues" a sung by the Polish group MerC 'N CeZik

Przemek Ivanich's cider blog: Piwo I Cyder on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/piwoicydr/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

Events

Cider Chat Podcast Episodes:

049: Agathe Letellier | Manior d"apreval | Normandy - France
050: Didier Bedue |President I.D.A.C., France
057 Eric Bordelet | Normandy, France Part 1

Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts.

Follow on twitter @ciderchat

 

 

Jan 11, 2017

Alvar Roosimaa turned towards cidermaking after deciding to move out of the capital of Estonia, Tallinn. He bought a country house approximately an hour and a half to the south Tallinn with his wife Veronika.

It was at this country house that the name of the cidery was found. Alvar tells the story of finding a copper tube, which is a typical container used by Estonians for holding documents, in a rubbish pile onsite. Inside this tube the original deed of the house was placed along with a colored map of the property. The farm's name was Jannihanso! When you look at the label, you will see that the name "JanniHanso" is using the original old world German handwriting for the name

The Jaanihanso cidery started commercial actives in 2013. In 2016, this Estonian cidery began working towards exporting.

This past year (2016) they pressed enough apples to have 60,000 litters (15,850 gallons) of apple juice.

Cider Tradition in Estonia?

  • Cider is very traditional. Locals call it "apple wine".
  • Every house has a small crusher and small press that has been handed down through the generations

Jaanihanso is the first commercial operation in Estonia

Since, Jaanihanso launched there are now 2-3 other commercial enterprises taking root, where they are making cider at another location versus being orchard based. Alvar used a fun term calling these ciders "gypsy cidermakers".

Alvar uses only wild yeast for the primary fermentation.

The champagne method is used during a secondary fermentation.

And this cidery also makes a hopped cider.

Where to find Jaanihanso?

  • Estonia
  • Finland
  • Ireland
  • Norwary
  • Denmark
  • Hong Kong
  • Australia

Contact Info for Jaanihanso

  • Cidermaker: Alvar Roosimaa
  • email: alvar@jannihanso.ee
  • Website: http://www.jaanihanso.ee/en/
  • Telephone: +372 51 20874
  • Location: 87215 Parnumaa
  • Õuna, Kaelase Village, Estonia

Mentions in this Chat!

Carrs Cider House

Ask for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Big Apple Hard Cider - NYC

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

Go to this page to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts.

Follow on twitter @ciderchat

Jan 4, 2017

Anzu Fernández has been selected as Cider Chat’s pick for the Sexiest Cider Dude of 2017!

This title is not given freely nor is it due to the fact that Asturias happens to have some of the biggest cider cojones around. I mean geez Louise! Roman historian Esteban said sometime back in 60 BC about Asturias "They scarcely have wine, but they drink a lot of cider.” I’m thinking that this American might think twice about bragging next time about the big, whoop fact that President John Adams drank cider 200 years ago.

Anzu is the International Delegate for Asturian XXI Foundation, speaks 15 languages, works for La Sidra, and is a medical doctor who is in residency to become a neurosurgeon. His resume is impressive, but what really inspired this podcaster is his Cider Bold. He is both knowledgeable and has a keen ability to speak with grace and conviction on cider not only in Asturias but in the rest of the world and that is not only intriguing it is exactly what cider needs right now in 2017!

His unabashed view that the cider industry should without a doubt support their country’s cider journalist and a podcast like Cider Chat, which helps to promote cider around the globe, is expected in Asturias and as such a no-brainer for other cider producers around the world.

Yes Anzu isn’t afraid to speak up and provide the cider community with a healthy boot in the ass. Plus, the fact that Asturians know how to party like no other people I have ever met in the world absolutely seals the deal for his new title!

In this chat we discuss Asturias’ cider culture and how to drink Sidra

Tasting notes for Sidra in Asturias

  • Expect Bitterness
  • A blend of  bittersweet and sweet apples
  • 6 apples in each bottle

Interesting facts on cider production in Asturias

  • There are 2500 "Asturian only"varieties of cider apples
  • 200 of the apples are endemic to only Asturia
  • Every brand of Natural Sidra, has at the minimum 6 varieties of apples in the blend
  • There are many different associations in Asturias. Also different standards for the Cider Bars (Siderias)
  • Basque cider is consider more acidic than Asturian cider
  • Asturias produces 100,000,000 liters of Sidra per year
  • This region also produces 50,000,000 liters of sparkling Sidra
  • There are Cider pourer competitions
  • The average consumption of cider in Asturias is 45 liters per year
  • In Gijon the population consumes 65 liters/year for every single person in the city - that is only for Natural Sidra, this does not include, liquors or sparkling Sidra

How to drink Sidra

  • Begin with a long pour or the "Colene", where the cider is poured from at least a meter from bottle to glass, to release the carbonic gases.
  • The glass is held on a slight angle to catch the pour.
  • About an 1/8 of a cup is poured into each glass
  • It should be frothy and drunk right away. One does not sniff and swill the cider.

Instead, Sidra is gulped back, except for a small amount which you leave in the glass to be poured out to the ground on the side of the glass where you just drank and then passed back to the pourer who will then serve another person out of the same glass.

The next 7th Annual International Hall of Gala Ciders takes place September 29th, 30th and October 1st in Xixón, Asturias. If you are a commercial cidery and would like to sponsor Cider Chat’s attendance at this event please contact ria@ciderchat.com

Contact info for Anzu Fernández

email: infoasturiancider@gmail.com

Address: Decano Prendes Pando 11

33208 (Xixon Asturias

Telephone: +(34) 652 594 983

Websites for Las Sidra

LA SIDRA in English:
http://www.lasidra.as/en

And also the shop:
http://www.lasidra.as/tienda/en/

Mentions in this chat

Go to this  to see the ciderchat.com show notes page with photos

048: Heleen Noble & Eelco Huizinga | Appels en Peren, Netherlands

049: Agathe Letellier | Manior d"apreval | Normandy - France

050: Didier Bedue |President I.D.A.C., France


057 Eric Bordelet | Normandy, France Part 1


Big Apple Hard Cider
- NYCAsk for the following 4 #CiderGoingUP Campaign cider supporters - By supporting these cider makers, you in turn help Ciderville.

Kurant Cider - Pennsylvania

Oliver’s Cider and Perry - Herefordshire/UK

Santa Cruz Cider Company - California

The Cider Project - California

Please Help Support Cider Chat Please donate today. Help keep the chat thriving!

Find this episode and all episodes at the page for Cider Chat's podcasts.

Listen also at iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher (for Android), iHeartRadio and where ever you love to listen to podcasts.

Follow on twitter @ciderchat

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